"No, actually the site owners are policing the Admins." Yep. And when site owners get 2500 e-mails from angry members they get grumpy. Keep pushing buttons and it will happen. I've seen many site admins that didn't know enough to recognize a bit of friendly advice when it came their way. I truly hope you're not one of them because we've always gotten along in the past. While we are on the subject ( there was a subject here, Jeff ), would you please explain to me, why some posts which have naught to do with Poser, or, even with art, manage to remain in the Poser forum, while others, which actually are relevant to Poser, get shuffled off. I'm not going to imply any dark conspiracy bullshit, cause I think that tends to kill credibility and belittle the problem, but there needs to be some consensus. And please don't belittle my intelligence with the "we only have so many hours in a day and can't check everything, blah blah blah," because I've been averaging about 10 hours a week at Rosity for the last month, and have managed to read probably 50 - 60% of everything written, at least to a level of comprehension that could easily tell me "on-topic" or "off-topic". Paul