BecSchm, that's exactly what I'm looking for, it is a model, correct? Do you have a link for download (site perhaps)? I will probably do the work anyway, best way to learn, but I'll do it on a bowl and vase, if you have the decanter... Yes, it's in watercolor, all smoke and mirrors, the glass and reflections, etc. have to be detailed extensively, every little nuance, in pencil first, before painting. Lights first, then darks, then middle range. Painting it's a pain, and takes awhile, but the results are worth it... 7of11, I don't know if a bump map will work to catch the light if it is a transparent object, doesn't sound compatible, I don't know if you use a bump map with a transparency? Please enlighten...

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