"$10 for everyone is enough to make Mike and Vicky face room ready, and to pay for the coding to change the default size to 2000X2000 on textures." Makes perfect sense to me. Bump those textures up into the three grand range and we may have something here. Even higher would be better with user selectibility for different rendering situations. Many have said the face room is nothing more than a toy the way it stands now...I'd have to agree. Mike, Vicky, Steph, and all new Daz models(V3) having compatibility in the face room is a must. Compensation for me could include free dog and cat models. A new program CD once everything is solid would help as well. In the future I hope we never have to unwittingly become beta testers again. This has been a trying experience for many; not all, but many. On a related topic, I just recieved a notice from Rhino that beta testing will commence for version 3. Anyone with version 2.0 wishing to beta test version 3.0 is invited to download(for free) beta version 3.0. The message also states: "we are looking forward to your feedback".