"2 people report that after SP1 (which I suppose I'll have to download) all rendering is black" actually that was mentioned here as well a while back but that was about SR-1 the updates are already on the second version of SR-2 and it seems that this version has fixed most of the bugs reported (at least the problems in the beta forum have slowed down) Im not sure I ever read Kupa promising that poser would be rewritten completely from top to bottom but even if he did things change so what? it's not the end of the world. there were assurances that even if CL were to go out of business there would be a patch available to disable the security and I contend that there is already crack ware that will do that which may be illegal now but if theres no CL what will it matter. as far as billing before merchandise is shipped, I wasn't my card was debited the day before my box showed up on tracking at the airborn site. as for prebilling in general it is common practice in mail order and is not illegal according to any law I've ever seen.