Welcome Back Carolly :) hope the hollerdays are going well for you :) Ill send you the meshes and cr2 files for these if you want them. as i did say i would put them in free stuff :) or just for you to use as was you oridganal post that inspired them. and for thows that have shown inters I will put up a clothing pac in the market place. I have ruffly 100 or more meshes created for other projects over the yrs im fiting to work in P5 with its cloth sym, it dose difer in its results from Maya's sym so do have to mod the meshes for proper draping in P5. Ok so pacs how many per ? 5 or 10 meshes ? and should i keep then of same type or mix them for you? ohh and ill release them very cheep in price. let me know Vel