If you change the camera angle and then save your atmosphere, it will not show up correctly inside Vue, because Vue always creates the "thumbnail" (the preview image you will see in the atmosphere browser) from its usual side. Audity's atmospheres are a sample. Most of them doesn't look at all as they were shown in the free stuff. (sorry Eric, but I know that you know this already:-)). Same if you add spots or other lights to fake lightbeams trough clouds, they NEVER will show up in the atmosphere. This just to say: it is VERY hard to create new atmospheres that works! And this is a really hard challenge. rds, yes, I will create a new rules message tomorrow to make it easier. Thanks for telling me, I just had not the time to do so today:-) :-)Guitta