No offense taken xoconostle. I'm very traditional with my artistic tastes is all. If I say an artist is naff, I'm just stating it from a personal perspective, not telling anyone else what to think. I've had people say I'm a bit of a philistine in my views, but I just say it as I see it. For illustration (pun intended), Shakespeare is generally accepted the best writer that ever lived, but speaking personally, I'd rather stuff wasps up my arse whilst licking piss off a thistle than read ten words of one of his plays. See, it's just what flicks my bean, nothing more. I have no artistic pretention ;) Hmmm, what a gross paragraph that was. My apologies. I guess I never really got over going to the same school as that popular pop-art pappa David Hockney.