LarryW - I have one other comment I'd like to publicly express. Hopefully I can do this in a way that won't make you defensive. If I fail, then I apologize, and I should have sent this message privately. Let's see if I can say this gently: Do you get, deep in your bones, that your company has made a mistake? That the discontent and uncertainty and hesitation to buy Poser5 within the community of Poser users has already cost Curious Labs far more than any hypothetical risk to Intellectual Property ever was going to cost? That regardless of the rightness or wrongness of each decision the end result is that EGISYS + Curious Labs released Poser5 with three strikes against it: #1* A shocking number of serious bugs. Though I begged to receive my pre-ordered copy when Airborne Express misplaced mine for seven days, and am working on an add-on project such that I am very glad I received it, within the first hour of receiving the product and trying it out, my overwhelming thought was "what were they thinking?". #2* A stringent and trouble-prone registration system. As a software developer, I thank you: better that you take the arrows in your back than I ;-) I would use such a scheme if I dared. When people talk about warez, and how there is probably already a crack out - irrelevant. The real issue is the basic human instinct that makes it easy to rationalize not paying for something unless you have to. The person who might otherwise make a copy or two for friends, who then might give away copies ... sometimes snowballs to many copies in use per legit copy - that's who this discourages, not the hard-core pirates. To users - by all means bitch and moan about the imperfections in schemes like this, but some scheme or another is going to prevail. Complain until all your issues have been successfully addressed. I'm betting on one of the universal hardware key solutions, like the one that I believe is offered by Poser5's security vendor. Maybe what is needed is a central company to hold keys, that could provide a "back-up source of registration updates" so that there wouldn't be total dependence on the original software vendor. #3* An alarmingly tight EULA. I've decided to live with it, but I am glad others have decided not to be passive about it. I will support Poser5, and take my legal chances, but I must remain free to support any alternatives that come along! - - - - - This is how it looks even to someone who is rooting for you to succeed! These three genuine topics of concern add up to serious risk. I believe y'all are working hard, and genuinely wish to alleviate community concerns. Best of luck! -- ToolmakerSteve P.S. Poser5 SR2beta is looking promising. Tell everyone involved not to give up hope - it's getting there and will have been worth the journey :)