*"I've pretty much made up my mind not to bother w/ P5, when/if they ever get around to releasing the Mac version. I'm inclined to spend the money on Vue instead."* VUe or any other **REAL 3D** program that imports poser files like cineme4dxl I have the propack and import my animated poser humans into Cinema4DXl for rendering where i enjoy hardware acceleration,batch rendering,**unlimited undos** **real** volumetric lights (NOT the like fake one in poser five) a superfast raytracer, smoke,fire ,water simulation. explosion deformers cloth and animated hair and procedural shaders.and incredible **stability.** so i can wait **:-)** **-wolf359 founding member of "the 12 animators"-**

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