some people would argue that Poser users are n00bs coz a lot of them just use watever they can buy/dload instead of modelling it themselves... i don't agree with the view but it is understandable... model and texture from here, pose and lighting from there, position them all in Poser, change it a bit with the dialers and hit render... that's how some people see Poser users... now i can understand people buying/dloading models/textures off the net since not everyone can afford to buy a bunch of softwares just for this purpose, but poses and lighting?!?! it's as simple as trial and error... just my 2 cents...