Call me a stick in the mud... While I love Bryce/Poser/EIU, etc, I do consider the traditional media to be more substantive. There something about a person and their canvas that can't be rivaled with a computer. "Art" on the other hand, does appear or fail to appear in all media. I've seen poser works that said "art" to me, though not many. Honestly, most 3d stuff I see is more like the 110mm camera on a vacation snapshot scrapbook showing. That's not to belittle 3d, just an opinion (and no, I don't think my stuff is any different.) I do 3d to get my mind off work when I come home. Its a hobby. When I want to do "art" I get out the pencils or oils. "Art" takes me weeks, months, or in some cases, years to complete. A graphite I did once took 2 years. It traveled with me all over the world and I worked on it a little at a time every week. My sister spent 18 months on her fighting stallion bronze. Some of her oils took almost as long. My brother has works that took as long. Longest 3d I ever did was 3 weeks. Most of my 3d is done start to finish in two or three hours. I guess I equate art to two things. Expression and effort. The expression must stir me. The effort must impress me (and if the expression is really stirring and the effort very light, I have great envy for the talent of the creator). While both expression and effort can be components of 3d, the generally are not (as in my case). What makes the mona lisa so valuable? Take a look, its pretty much a standard run of the mill girl that's rather unattractive. But when you consider the effort that went into making it, that sets it apart from anything else in the world. What about fixing mistakes? In 3d, just highlight and delete. Morph, revert, retexture, whatever. In traditional media... well, you don't ever make the mistake in the first place. No, there are differences and as much as I enjoy 3d, as much as I have looked in awe at a handful of 3d images, as much as I have wished my 3d could look like others, I just don't put traditional and 3d on the same level. (Of course, there was a time I didn't put photography and traditional on the same level either so who knows, maybe I'll grow a bit in the future on this issue.) Again, no one media is "art". "Art" does occur in 3d. Junk also occurs in all media.