"post-process with extreme prejudice." Heheh. I like this term, Terry. As those who know me already know, the only parameters I like applied to my art are the ones in the fractal generator. Other people's ideas about my art are just that, and are therefore of less value than my own opinions of my art. Anyone who has taken art classes at a level beyond high school has probably experienced some scathing critiques of their art -- which is as it should be. Yes, this subject has been, and will continue to be, discussed in the fractal world -- just as people will always ask, "what is art?" The only real vaue in that, IMO, is when it helps the person who asks the question of themselves and lets it guide them in their own vision, and execution, of their art. Beyond that, I think it's ridiculous in the extreme when people put value judgements on others for post-processing outside of a generator when they're post-processing within the generator and then denying that the images have been post-processed -- "post-processed" being the working term, really, for "altered from the original fractal as originally generated before layering and texturing." Such denial is, IMO, akin to the child who closes his eyes and thinks he's invisible.