The truth is easy to ascertain... since the merchants' forum is closed to all but merchants (why? I dunno), you may want to have a peek around at other sites, like 3DC (http://www.3dcommune.com), Poser Pros (http://www.poserpros.com) or etc. We largely kept thewhole thing out of Faeriewylde, because the affairs of humans should not necessarily domainte everywhere :) I'm only posting these URL's in the interest of readers getting both sides of the story, since the PTB has only seen fit to post their side, which is their right to. 'course, if I get banned for posting these URL's in the Poser forum, then at least you'll all know why. /P