hmmm.... I'm not a merchant, but after reading this thread I've got to do something for sale, just to get into that forum to see what the heck is going on. I'm getting pretty good with P5 hair for Mike. I was going to offer it as a freebie, but... I don't really understand the idea of "trade secrets". If you're posting in any forum - public or private, it's not a secret anymore. I know the 'sity must make more than enough money on sales to keep the site up, or else it wouldn't be up. It must cost a bundle with all the hits and storage required. Is the idea of the 'sity to make a profit, or is it done by someone out of the goodness of their heart for the community? Either way is fine with me. Any site is basicly the kingdom of the owner/webmaster, not a democracy (although the concept of a democraticly owned and run site is very appealing, as long as I get a voice and a vote, and don't have to do the work). I'm sad that some vendors are moving their stores. Sometimes its hard to find where they've moved to, and it makes it difficult to find that one item you need for that render you've been working on for three weeks. Hopefully Content Paradise will someday help with that (if it ever gets online). It seems the best place for this thread would have been in the vendor's forum, but if the people who need to discuss this can't get there anymore... I'm SO confused.