Yeah, I realize that, but it is one more step, and judging by the number of votes per voting period, which I think is two weeks, it shows that virtually no one uses the system. At any given time, there's usually above 1000 members logged on, and for the top image to only have 20 or so votes for a two week period shows how "broke" the system is. And that's just the Poser gallery. The other ones only get at the most like 4 for the top image. But the masses seem to have spoken and of course the attention starved artists out there need a place to shine, so forget the whole thing. I'm pretty much fed up with this site. It's no longer what it used to be. Dragontales BTW - No offense meant to you Grimtwist, I didn't want you to think I was upset with you.