Thanks everyone! Here's a pic that I just render in my lunch hour of the peahen. Orio I couldn't agree more with you about the common or garden animals (that's why I like Vista's sets) I have a chicken head half built (sounds like a voodoo project) but am waiting for delivery of a book called 'Amazing chickens' before I go much further. I think my next bird project is likely however to be a swan_ we've got a family on the river at the bottom of the garden so lots of opportunity for me to get good texture photos and detail for the model_ and there's not a really good high rez model available for Poser (as far as I'm aware) Wing spreading poses (sorry!) quite a few modelling difficulties. I havn't done it with the Peacock (how often do you see a peacock fly?), but I think the solution is to have two seperate models with seperate wing meshes_I tried it with my Flamingo model but if I'm honest it didn't work so well there. Goose is a good one_ as with some simple morphs and different texture sets you could have quite a good range of species. The Cat ! ah well_ I dunno.. I love cats but they're so amorphous and bendy/floppy..I gotta agree the Poser cat doesn't have essence of cat!