Dialyn: I'm with you on the cat (meaow!). I personally think the cat is the most incomprehensible "black hole" and the biggest missed chance of Poser modelers! I think a good cat could sell almost as much as Victoria or Mike. It would sell like hot cakes! How no one of the most known companies or modelers (DAZ, Anton, Vista, Dacort, etc.) never made one in three years, since the ugly P4 cat came out? This I can't understand! With so many good modelers out there, no one that realized the commerce potential of a cat model! Maybe Nigel is right and modelers are "scared" by the cat's "floppiness". But maybe this should be a good challenge for modelers! and anyway... ANY cat, even if not perfect, would be an improvement over the Poser cat!