yup size matters Hiram, how big are ya anyway ;-) all good points. I'm a dot com vet myself. Got the scars to prove it... deep scars, bitter bitter, but hey... my stocks are worth nothing, I'll go to my grave supporting my parents social security pensions, and I'll get nothing when I get to their age... ... and I'm still hanging in there ... lol Take down my gallery? Geez, why? I get a decent exposure here, its not my bandwidth anyway. I bought enough in the MP here to deserve that gallery space. Its staying there. :) (leech mentality: ON) see ya around when I'm around - love your work Hiram :)