Sorry - the topic sounds funny but please take this literal. I know there is a cow for poser and even a bison but for a christmas picture I'm looking for - really an ox. If anybody knows, where I can get this animal I would be very glad. Thanks a lot for helping! Dorothea

Sorry - but this is a bison or something like that. I'm looking for some other animal. In my dictionary I found another word for this - bullock or numskull. Sorry, I'm German and the english language knows a lot of differant words for one thing. It is even hard to decide which one is the right. I'm looking for this animal beside the manger in the stable of Bethlehem

thanks a lot - but I'm not looking for the donkey - there's a beautiful poser4 horse morph on 3D Model World. But steer - sorry about this - in Germany we mean with this term a male cow with all his gender specific beauty - a "ox" would be the castrated version. This happens in the youth of the poor calf and so it would appear much bigger and much more fat than a steer. Hope I didn't hurt anybody with my excursion to farm-life.

Hi Doro, what a funny discussion. Wouldn't it be easiest to take away the "Euter" from an existing cow in an external modeler? Or do i misunderstand something. I think the differences between a cow and an ox/bull are very biological and not really relevant for a christmas "Krippe". :-)) Walther

Walther, our both messages were posted at tje same time (LOL). You don't need an external modeler, just cut it off inside Vue. That's faster then to go to the veterinary:-)

LOL I'm sure, I can't write without laughing. Sorry about this confusion! Gebe: I allready thought about hiding the udder in Vue - and I agree with you, it's not such a painful procedure as consulting the veterinary. But - sorry it looks like a cow anyhow. I was looking for some really fat and cosy animal like those who pulled my grandfathers plow. This endless discussion above is the result of my poor knowledge of english. Walter: It seems, as if I must use the poser-cow. I think I must hide this "cow-ox" a bit in the background that it doesn't matter so obviously. Again - thanks to all! I'm really amused by this discussion.

Why not just increase the size of the "cow"?

Hi, Google with "bull + 3D +model +free" came up with this: http://www.fantasticarts.com/3dmodels/animal/bull.htm Don't know how useful this is, it looks a little rough - and its a bull, not an ox. We all know the differences now! Anyway maybe you'll have a look. :)) Walther