The wish lists become boring novel long fantasies, every time. And, it's been done so often, we all know what we want, or at least hope to get in Bryce Pro. I don't find Bryce'e/Posers interfaces a problem at all, it's the one reason I was drawn to the program(s), and was able to learn them so easily/quickly. Back in 1993(or so), the original developer of the interface, Kai Krause was more concerned with making an interface that could be used by anyone, quickly and easily. An easy interface atop a powerful mathmatical program. If it wasn't for the interface, Terragen would be considered user-friendly comapred to Bryce. Limitations in atmosphere and the material editor? Like what? The shortcuts are documented, you just can't rely on the actual manual to show you what they are, lol. (rely on Real World Bryce) Oh, I would LOVE Bryce to accept plug-ins. It seems it was originally designed with that in mind, but that part of it just fell to the wayside. Yes, if Bryce stays a closed program, its user base will eventually shrink away. I don't know...I remember the pre-release of Bryce 5 and it was pretty much like it is now...just the sound of the wind. A few websites got to review it a couple weeks before it came out, a few beta-testers released some basic renders, that was about it. At this point, I would bribe someone good money to find out the Bryce Pro's new attributes... AgentSmith

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