Actually, I agree with Martian Manhunter. I'd rather pay for something rather than get it free but with oddball restrictions attached. As for showing "gratitude" toward freestuff contributors, I always thought the ONLY way to do that was to USE their stuff in renders and credit them, thus giving them exposure. I can't think of any other way to show "gratitude" to a freestuff object creator. The real thrill for a freestuff contributor is to see how many ways their creations can be used in renders. That's why they do it. All this stuff about how they're "going to go away if we're not nice to them" is silly. We don't have to invite them over for dinner. We don't have to honor their memory by giving them their own national holiday. We just have to use their stuff. That's the whole idea. Right? jjsemp