Thank you all for answering me. Antons 'Magic FX' from Daz is hard to explain. Sharen (sams3d) just posted a great picture in the Poser forum using it. Picture is titled "Man in the Moon". Now that I know you cannot see the final .avi in Vue I feel a lot better! And that the wireframe view is what your supposed to see. It did look right in QuickTime. Okay, so it looks like my problem is that the 'Magic FX' character/prop is too far above her to be seen. I used the 'airplane' motion so that I could plot a simple circle around Victoria. I understand that it's up high to avoid collision. As soon as I get it right I will post the render. The .avi is far too large to post. Jaqui - that's exactly what I see when I post a message... I really appreciate all your help!