X2...Point 1 - I agree. :) Point 2..I know you aren't stupid or naive..just making an exaggerated point...AND...I agree...in fact, I could go into that whole thing as it related to many places I've worked at IRL. (unfortunately) Point 3 - Its taken LSM & Mendhi ...and others YEARS...I daresay to get as good as they are. QUALITY...damn important if you want to survive...I agree...but that is another rant I could go on...I deal with Quality issues everyday. (IRL too) Point 4 - I left once...never to return..pulled all of my gallery....and went next door...but..I always lurked...and really enjoyed C&D...and the Tavern....-sigh- the good old days...where's the chex mix eh? X2000...you can bug us all you want. :) Note: Please excuse typos ...I'm used to being able to edit..LOL