Thank you all for the input. I've been playing around some today and managed to render a few pics. I think the most frustrating thing is the incredible potential of the program. I think the layout and features are spot on. Just a lot of bug-hunting to be done and ironing out. I really am looking forward to the results of the CL image contest to see what the 'lucky ones' can do with it. There's always the possibility there is something about my setup that Poser doesn't like. I wish I could pinpoint something to fix. Thanks again. You guys have done some great stuff. Mike