I know... typicall sysadmin-method: block first, think... later... naw, why bother thinking, when you can block something? I'll happily take 2 spam-mails a day if I can communicate with people. Blocking those 2 spams at the expense of loosing my ability to communicate is like cutting of your right arm because people you do not like tend to shake your hand. The problem in this case is a well tended "nerdism" among sysadmins. One of my friends is a sysadmin and he also likes to block things. She dislikes AOL - whups... suddenly no one in her net could receive e-Mails from any AOL-source. She dislikes Web.de - whups... suddenly all the web.de mails disappeared. Well, now she developed a dislike for hotmail and gmx - whups... guess what mails are going to be blocked next? A typical case. She never bothers to think for a second, that almost 90% of the internet-users in Germany are actually using a GMX or Web.de-account. She just blocks what she dislikes... Same problem with MAPS: Simply block everything coming in until they can prove they aren't sending spam. The whole thing has a funny twist: Their own e-Mail-adresses are MAPS-protected as well - making it impossible to contact them to prove you aren't sending spam. Very intelligent... Block all you like. It just happens at the expense of communication. Right now, 3 members of Renderosity will probably consider me an arrogant bastard, because I failed to answer their messages... Wow... Man... I am so happy some triggerhappy sysadmin had the ability to block mails and instantly put it to good use. Joerg