Thanks Caleb68. I thought I was going to have to wait untill tomorrow for some help. The one time that ClintH is not online, this would happen to me. I have already fired off an e-mail and an IM to the R'osity MP and a nice flame-mail to MSN. there is no way to disable the download manager in MSN 8.0 and the setting controls suck! God, I hate this crap!