Firstly kudos to AS for having taken the idea so much forward. Here are a couple of suggestions Ive put up for consideration: -- Voting: Im still quite against the idea of voting towards pre-selection. For any contest for contests sake, voting might be taken into suggestion, but for a Gurus contest, any effort to try and whittle the entries down to a manageable number will always be fraught with uncertainties. Who votes? Trolls? Only people with galleries? Exclude participating artists? Exclude visitors and connoisseurs who arent artists themselves? Do an IP address check? What if there were more then one user of a particular IP (for eg. Freeze who are a husband wife team, but each may have a different preference. So does one vote get validated?) What about ISPs which allocate IP addresses on the fly (A large number of ISP in various countries allocate an IP address on the fly each time you log in! I know cos mine does and also having been a channel manager in a portal, I know the nightmare we had in trying to gauge traffic flow through our sites, based on IP address). Also more the controls and measures are brought it, the greater headache its going to translate into for AS and/or Renderosity. Its one thing to conceptualise a voting system which is fool proof and another to program it, bug test it, and then make the system gripe free! Id strongly recommendkeep things simple and let the judges decide. In most such contests (say for the American Illustrator Showcase, Communication Annual, Canon GDCC etc) the judges themselves do a cursory sorting at first, deciding on which images to look into in greater details and then after the preliminary judging they start going through the selected ones in greater detail. With a suitable jury selected, this will prove to be the least controversial methodology, I feel. -- Categories: By far a large majority of Brycians/Brycers use Poser as a complementary S/W. How about a category for the best Bryce Poser marriage (ummm Im already drooling on imagining kromekats creations coming in here)? Other then a few mule-heads like me who try and model people with meatballs, most use Poser extensively! It will open up a whole slew of new sponsors/prizes and bring in a lot of poser talent too! What say AS? Would it be a large number of entries to merit a separate category by itself, though I cant see myself participating? And would we need a separate category on modelling, what with a 100% Bryce category already being there? If its 100% Bryce, expertise in modelling would also have to be shown, and again, as its a Gurus contest, all round expertise in materials, composition and lighting will have to be shown. A.S. you have stated that 100%Bryce have no post work. But we had already faced this issue in the first 100% Bryce challenge we had. What about people with slower machines who might want to render their image in parts and then composite them as otherwise it would take eons to render? Or getting a depth of field by blurring using the depth render and selecting in Photoshop? Or, for the matter, simple Color correction? And 100% Bryce would stop people from using the HDRI technique to use as a material in their image as background might have to be composited separately even if its modelled completely in Bryce? What if it was stipulated that post was allowed but NO OBJECT BE ADDED IN POST OR BY MEANS OF PICT OBJECT towards the composition? After all it can never be 100% Bryce, what with terrain which can be created in a 2D program or textures which are created outside and brought in. Also Bryces task is to render, but not to color correct. -- Number of entries: In every other competition, which has categories, entries are restricted to one per category. Not one per whole contest. Moreover a Bryce Guru should be validated by an all round usage of Bryce, not a particular category. Wont there be a Best of the Show recognition like the Chelsey awards and Photoshop Gurus contest? However one might limit the number of categories one participates in to say 3. Theres also a difference between citation/trophies and Prizes. While Im all for maximum number of people getting a maximum number of prizes, lets not stem merit. A rider can always be provided that any entrant will be entailed to winning a maximum of one prize irrespective of the citations won. This should provide incentives enough to all who participates and the prizes would get distributed amongst the most without restricting merit! Well thats all from me for the moment. Will put up more in case I think something new up! :-) Avi