Yes, I agree that "no post" would prejudice against people with slow machines. I don't say that from a personal perspective ;) as my machine is anything but slow, but even so I made a decision recently to render all my stuff in default AA and do the rest in postwork. That way, instead of 4 hrs eating double-choc cookies, I spend 4 hrs doing post, gaining experience and, hopefully, getting a more pleasing result. Unfortunately, allowing post throws up another problem and I have no suggestion on how to solve it. I mean, if post is allowed, it's allowed. So how far does it go? For example, who produces the best Bryce landscapes on Rendo? Hobbit & rohi? And I there's a lot more post than Bryce going on there, and digital photos too, but I'd still class it as Bryce. But does that mean someone can render a 10 second ground plane in Bryce then paint and entire picture over it with a Wacom? Where do you draw the (metaphorical) line? I'm glad I don't have to decide on this one... :o Lastly, and more generally, I think there needs to be some thought given as to the real purpose of the competition. Again, I'm not going to make any more suggestions here, as AgentSmith has enough to think about without my witterings, but will this challenge be won by someone who:- a) has mastered Bryce to a greater extent than anyone else? or b) can produce the best piece of art using Bryce as a tool? IMO there's a great big difference between the two. I've seen images with astonishing effects and modelling that are dull and boring and leave me saying, "so what?" I've also seen less technically accomplished pieces that are packed with emotion and impact. (Some, like humorix, have the modelling AND the impact of course!) But my point is, which would be the driving factor? Or WOULD it be both? I reckon a short paragraph describing what the judges are looking for would be very helpful, especially if categories like "pure Bryce" exist. And there endeth the lesson. ;)