You have to admit, less than a 24 hour turnaround to fix the problem is pretty darn good. Of course, it does point out that they still have problems doing ALPHA testing. Loading a figure in Beta SR2-4 and doing a render showed the problem right away. Kupa, if I were you I'd take a long hard look at your testing methodology and department management. You're getting better, but you still have problems. BTW, when are you going to get the hair collisions fixed? It seems to get worse and not better with each beta release. I'm killing my test on it now.