I'm the Bug VK. ;-) I guess didn't understand how the basic concept of JCJ worked until you just said that. I didn't realize that you couldn't manipulate the child object by moving the master object. And HAVE to set them both up as one dial under the BODY. I had too many duplicate addDelta's and whatnot throughout my .cr2 causing problems. That batmobile file is perfect for using as a refrence. It's prety cool too. Love those fold out wings and pop up head lights. :-) Thanks for the help. ScottA