Well me and my father (Harrison2) where talking about this. My bet is that Corel outbid Adobe on everything and they got stuck with Carra :P Zygot apparently have a annoucement to make and I think that since there is no mention of who got Poser i come to think they got it, would make alot of sense. As for Corel, 6 was a bit iffy, I mortally hated 7, but as my father said 8 is great and a few friends of mine who use 9 say its alot better, Corels a good company, and I doubt the price of Bryce will shoot up right away (that would just piss everyone off) :P F3nix