Oops. Hang on a sec VK. You CAN move the child by directly poseing the Master body part. I just didn't have it set up right. All it took was removing some un-needed additions I had placed in the master's channels. Why do you prefer to add the VP stuff to the BODY section? It's actually more work that way. I do see one benefit to it. But I'd like to know why you prefer to do it that way. ScottA