L.D., For some reason I've been thinking about eyes lately - maybe it was bloodsong - she always seems to ask the best questions - the ones that make you think. Whatever it was - these look fantastic L.D.. I look forward to 'eyeballing' these later.(pun intended.) regarding "getting off ..." our "... scaley butts" brings up the question of ergonomics. Perhaps someone will start a thread on setting up a work area ergonomically. Anyrate, keep up the good work. You've done very well, - TJ