Thanks for the info about the sun shape. I didn't realize why it was oval or how to fix it. My daughter totally disliked the picture because of it (and its too pink for here taste). But I was thinking about trying to do the fix up work in PSP because of the render time only I'm just a beginner at that too so I don't have a whole lot of ideas on how to fix it up. I think I'll try your suggestion. There are still a few weeks left, hence more nights to render during. I had a lot of fun doing this, got to make more stuff. I used Peter Sharpe's tut for the gems. And the dragon flies were the closest I could make to fairies using Bryce. I love the glassy materials which makes rendering take forever. This is my fantasy land, warm and smooth with lots of pretty gems just waiting to be picked up off the ground. :) Thanks again for the tip!