To Snoopy: Any kind of 3d figure. I want to eventually be able to create my own kind of creatures. To everyone else: Thanks for all the program tips. I've been trying to find a program and now I've got a list. I'll look into seeing which one has the best help books and probably go with that one. I've been trying to design objects in Bryce with the edit object window and importing my own grayscale images. The problem was, I was unable to group objects to export as a wavefront for other program use. I made a real simple column with bryce and poser.