Dons his best Ed McMan voice Yes, you are correct, sir (or mam.) DAZ and CL had a very ugly and rather publicized parting of the ways over inclusion of Mike/Vickie into P5. DAZ even announced that it would not sell P5 products until the EULA was amended. It has also announced its future presentation of a potential rival modeller to Poser. However, fortunately (for all involved, esp. us) the companies recently hammered out a deal over the the EULA and are talking now. Cross your fingers and let's all hope for the best. --lb