I'd bet that almost everyone's installation goes as smoothly as casamerica's did with P5.<<< Hi, Jackson. Yeah, but look at the karma it cost me. That was the about the only thing with ----- - that has went smoothly. I am writing this as an animation I am doing for a client is rendering on another machine. I really thought that by this time I would be doing these in ----- -. But, you see, I am just not the type to place an item, any item, that I paid money for based on advertisements and promotions on the shelf with that "live and learn" attitude. Nope. And my patience is about gone and grows less and less each time I read another of those "if you can't say anything nice... " posts. When the day arrives that I run up the white flag on ----- - and uninstall it, that will only be the beginning. Believe me. That day is rapidly approaching. Take care and be well. casamerica