Well I suppose I should just pass on by and not make any comments, but it's not my nature. I hope you can get the problems fixed Sharen. As you know I love your work and will continue to download freebies that I need and purchase from you when I see something I can't live without :) Chuck: bless you heart....you have a good soul :) It is clear that you are an honest man :) Now....the real reason for my comment is in response to Wladamire...who I'm sure is a nice person and probably didn't mean anything so severe as his comments suggest (or maybe he did, who knows). He seems to imply that there would not be a problem if we all simply made our own models! He goes on to say that he thinks it is wrong for people to create objects so they can sell them to those who don't want to take the time to learn??? Well....I'm one of those "shiftless, no count" purchasers of other peoples models!! Yes...I fess up!! Is it because I'm too lazy to plunck my butt in front of a computer for an additional four hours a day and learn how to make models??? No....actually...it's because I have a job that eats up an average of 12 hours a day.....at the end of which I have some time to do what I really enjoy....create images with Vue and Bryce! I barely have time to figure out how to use those programs for the purpose they were designed (which was not to make models). I certainly don't have time to learn a modeling software. Consequently, I don't own Poser or any other serious modeling software. Frankly I would rather compensate those wonderful artists here at Renderosity, 3d Commune or Sams 3d for their great work, and end up with a nice looking model to insert in my pathetic scenes :) If it's any consolation Wladamire, I get as equally excercised by the Linux geeks who think a computer is about "tweaking their Kernnel" and not about getting one's work done :) That's my rant for the day....I now feel better and will put my old grey behind to bed....!