pack. actually right after I posted here I thought maybe I shoulda emailed him directly. I did. I did it humble. I mena I apologized if I am one of many who inandate him with emails and thanked him for his time. Actually I almost feel like the bikini top fix was as a result of me cause it never worked till I mentined it shortly before release 4.0.2.117 or 116 I think it was. Anthony. A special forum? Why thas what these forums are. Special forums for whatever you want to talk about. I'm told all the companies related to Poser parooze thru the listings looking for ideas/complaints. I guarantee you that Zygote does. On a number of occassions someone has posted an original model and then within a week or two Zygote would offer for sale thier version of the same model. This is an excellent source. No, the definative source on Poser info besides Larry himself.