~stumbling back across this thread after returning home from dinner~ silverstar, glad to hear that the issue has been resolved to your satisfaction. Crescent, in the attached image, I highlighted the areas that stand out as not fitting right. if they are covered with facial hair, even partially, they would have the colour of the hair in question. the colour scheme in the renders for this area is more consistent with scar tissue or being freshly shaven. ( from looking at my own face both before and after shaving. I haven't looked at a lot of textures for the male models, so I do not know if this is normal for them or not. the pose used in silverstar's example renders does make this colouring oddity stand out to my eye. ( can you tell that I have been in the situation of giving constructive critisism a lot? with artists using classic media as well as digital ) a note for mods and admins, while this thread is most appropriately in this forum, it was started in poser forum and was there long enough to have been seen by a number of members ( customers ) moving it with no post stating where and why makes it look like Renderosity is trying to hide something. every post and action taken by any mod or admin, no matter how trivial it seems, has far reaching effects on both the person and Renderosity's reputation. if this is kept in mind, it will reduce the chances of misunderstandings occuring.