Each patch seems to improve P5. There are still bugs, and things that don't work correctly, but it's getting a lot better. There's no guestimate on the release of Daz Studio yet. If you've got the money and can't wait, P5 has more than enough new features to make it worthwhile. We're just starting to get teases on Daz Studio, so I expect it won't be released for at least 3 to 6 months. Dan Farr from Daz emphisized in his post yesterday that the example he posted was not the final version of the interface. That means they're still working on the base programming. They still have alpha and beta testing, documenting, and hype time before their release. If you've got P4 or PPP and are happy with it, and don't have money burning a hole in your pocket, wait. However, if you want all the new P5 features now, spend the cash for the upgrade.