Tisa, please explain to me why art is only defined as shock art, which I imagine a chick with a dick in your latest image is intended to be? To me, it's far more artistic to create a vision like Toxic Angel or Hobbit does, but that's the beauty of art. We all have our opinion of what it is. Slighting the artists here because you don't particularly like a different genre than what you consider art is very narrow minded. I know that you would not agree probably that fantasy art is art, but when I came here, I was very narrow minded about only finding good fantasy art, but after being here a year, I've found that my tastes and understanding for other genres has grown so much, and I realize that it's important for an artist to respect other mediums even though they may or may not like a particular picture or even genre. I agree with CyberStretch, why not find a more compatible site that better fits your idea of art, than spitting your venom on those that reside here. Would seem a better way to spend your time, or do you enjoy being the center of controversy? Course controversy I guess makes for "real art", so that would make sense I suppose. Geesh... ShadowWind