What is the matter with the CL thread? What was showed was good. Sure people raved, there was a lot to rave about, but the problem was not what the thread showed or people drooled over(myself included), but the fact that all that good stuff did not work as advertised. Hopefully CL will get a functioning fix by Christmas. Yes I'm excited by DAZ Studio, and I will buy it. Hopefully the reaction to P5 was noted, and DAZ won't make the same mistakes. In fact it is a great benefit to DAZ if they can show how it should be done, and a PR flop if they don't. Thier reputation is at stake.