In my eyes a very bad day for Carrara... I know, Photoshop and other Adobe products have a good reputation, but Adobe = Ultra high prices! They try to make the big money out of every piece. So I think we can be prepared to see a lot of plugins for Carrara coming, but way too high priced to be affordable. Second bad fact: Carrara and Poser in different hands. As Idol mentioned, I fear the dream of Poser and Carrara being better integrated some day now is over. However the only thing we can do now, is wait and see what time will bring. I'm happy, that I did not drop my former favorite 3D program, Monozoom, completely. After a recent update it is coming very close to the possibilities of Carrara. In rendering times it allways has been faster than Carrara. wolfdd