Wow Thanks for the encouragement guys. I'm going to be moderating the new "Challenge" forum soon. Yes they're going to let me have my challenge forum and gallery. Whats interesting is that i may be able to incorperate this into the Challenges . Jack and Ed asked me to draw up a Mock challenge site. It was really basic ( I suck at web design and html editors) I sent it off to them and Roy will do his magic and will look it over and make all the changes to make it work. so when it's implimented I will be new to me as well. anyway were hhoping to set it up wher you move from level to level in certain apps , working your way up from novice to tutor or master for example if you suck at Poser but are really good at Bryce you would be challeneged as a novice or intrmediate Level in Poser But You could have a Tutor level In Bryce and would be made available if (you so wished)to help the others in there challenges. also maybe impliment a "Masters" challenge where the Tutors and masters could challenge eachother. Well this is about as much detail thats been given here on that subject . and It may be setup differently but this is essentially what we talked about on the phone. I'm pretty excited about it. Hawkfyr

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