Ok. I think I've solved the problem of the eyes not working with the Point At command. 1.)Select each eyeball one at a time 2.)open the Joint editor 3.)type in these setting for the center point: Center Point 0.013 0.677 0.025 End Point 0.013 0.677 0.030 Then resave the figure to the library with the same name. You should now be able to add the point at command to each eyeball. And it should work like the P4 figures do. Let me know if it works gang. ScottA iamsba@aol.com

(subtle, huh?

Great! Umm. Asymmetry is a very big word for my simple brain cells. ;-) The distance between the center point and the end point tells poser what arc to use when Rotating an object. If they are both in the same exact location. Poser can't rotate the object because it doesn't know what radius to use to do it. (I'm making all of this up. Sounds pretty impressive doesn't it ;-) ) So if that's what asymmetry is. Then yes. You were correct. Glad I could find it. ScottA iamsba@aol.com

Thanks Scott ;-)

Yep it does work. The end point and the center point were right on top of each other. Good work Scott. -JH.

Scott, thank you for your fine efforts. This will make a tremendous difference in the use of this otherwise teriffic model. Thank you again. pinto

Terrific work there Scott, thank you for this Paul

Hopefully Zygote is reading this and will incorporate this into future copies of Victoria/Millie... :-)