JohnRender...That was my mistake. I thought you had an item you were offering for sale, and that's what sparked the discussion with Spike. I apologize for any confusion I caused. It was not intentional. In general: While I think there are ways to constructively criticize someone's graphics without appearing to attack the person, I won't waste my breath discussing style here. "Bad" and "good" are opinions only...unfortunately some people take these pronouncements to heart. The fact that you or someone else may think my graphics are garbage wouldn't mean much to me because I don't know you or the other person and have no reason to think you or the other person have my best interests at heart. I don't exist as a real person to you anymore than you exist as a real person to me. Unfortunately some people take every posted opinion as being worthwhile and the negative ones are taken as something that needs to be agonized over. There's no way to educate people on being cautious of accepting as absolute truth what anyone says on these forum. Every person has his or her own agenda...and sometimes he or she doesn't care about the feelings of the people involved because he or she is single minded about forcing that personal agenda down other people's throats irregardless of whose work they are commenting on. In that case, a Leonard or Michaelangelo would not be good enough for these self-proclaimed experts. It's just something to keep in mind...an opinion is only an opinion and not worth the paper it isn't written on in the land of the virtual. My opinion has as little weight and importance as anyone else's here, and that's also true of everyone else here. The exceptions being, of course, those people who may have your personal respect for whatever reason. I don't respect someone just because they tell me I am supposed to. But there are people on this forum that I admire greatly and their word I would accept whether it was a compliment or a suggestion for improving my graphics.