Ah HAH! You've just nailed it James. This is exactly why I don't like the way Eve1 and now Vickie has the shoulders and collars set up. The P4 figures don't have those breast mangeling problems. You'll probably need to really adjust the JP's on her to get the pose you want. There are other folks who don't like the collars set up like this. And there may come a day when someone remakes the top half of her like the P4 figures are. Yet maintain the lower set up from the hips down. ScottA iamsba@aol.com