dialyn, it's a subject that will always be discussed with no resolution. ( hense the wires and pulleys to keep standing the horse up ) there are way to many points of view for any full agreement to be reached. ( lord knows I don't bother with getting involved in the discussion about it any more, since it's a never ending one. ) just as the "is cg art or not" is never really resolved. ( sub subject to what is art ~wink~ ) my comment was meant as a somewhat humourous explanation of how the horse gets back on it's hooves.