It would be pretty hard to define what constitutes the various levels. I know one artist who thinks he's "intermediate," but I think he's an amazing artist of accomplishment. I consider myself a newbie and a beginner, but some people have said "I wish I could do that!" about some of my renders ... go figure. Your intentions are cool, spudgirl, but IMO this is all too subjective. Maybe we could have a separate gallery for "Sexy Vicky with Post-render Glow, Painted Hair, and Interesting Curves" gallery. (just kidding ... sort of)